00:00:07 Speaker 1: This Mead Podcast. Welcome to Meat Eater Trivia, the only game show where conservation always wins. I'm your host, Spener new Art, and today we're joined by special guests John Muellum. In addition to John, we also have Steve Corin, Brodie Hayden, Jannis and Cal John. How you feel about Trivia? Feel pretty good? I just dropped my pen cap. Not off to a good start. It They don't needed pens for this game of trivia. You should say something like the writer John Muellam, author most recently of Serious Face I Like It, which is about so It's a collection of his magazine reporting, some of which deals with the ways in which animals drive people a little wacky. I like it now, John. If you're not familiar, this is a ten round quiz show with questions born out of meat eater sport verticals which you're hunting, fishing, conservation and cooking, and there is a prize. Medater will donate five hundred dollars to the conservation organization of the winner's choosing. So far we've had Steve win five times, Brody win four, Yannis win two, Clay Seth Corinchester and our trivia guest each win once. I am not gonna rest until you fix the way you do the scorecard. It is blank for blank, Okay, it's he's Steve's five for eleven or whatever, five for eleven, because you could you have had people that played once and one once. That's right. People might be like, or we played five and one five. It's like, yeah, you got. It's like it's blank for blank, blank for blank, because everybody's not always here every time. I think your whole goal with this is to embarrass cal that's where you're going for, right, No I'm not. I'm just going for like, greater clarity. I'm an easy target, greater clarity. He's blank for blank for context. If we were doing it that way, Cat would be like, oh four six, I think sure whatever. Yeah. Hey. I posted you know today on Instagram to promote ther the fact that this trivia show is now weekly and uh cc Mason seventy five, and the comments wrote, where's the biggest wander award at sar would win every week and then there's a picture of a face someone really laughing hard and a turkey. I like that. I don't know how the turkeys in there He's like, oh no, there's two turkeys. He's also starting out that I like to hunt for turkeys. I had somebody right and who said that they host trivia a couple of bars in their local town, and they said that every game of trivia has somebody like Steve there, and everybody hates that person from the other competitors to the host of trivia said, someone's always got a problem with how things are worded. Someone's always complaining. Uh so, Steve, you are that guy for this show. I'm gonna start a club four people like that and we're gonna play trivia together. I'll join, I'll join. Brad Parker said, get Spencer Newhart a trophy for having to deal with Steve each Trivia is turning into a Steve Rose today watched me come out and win. Now we have some housekeeping to get to from previous shows. On previous episode, we had Steve complaining about the question how many leaves this poison ivy have multiple Arboris wrote in and said that poison ivy does always have three leaves, but if we want to be more anatomically correct for the board game, then we should refer to them as leaflets. So that there is no arguing. Oh, I would never have argued he's exactly right, So leaflets, it is going forward. Also, on a previous episode, we had many folks up in arms about the question named three of the five countries where polar bears live because I allowed Greenland as a correct answer. Now, technically Greenland is considered an autonomous country within the Kingdom of Denmark. But I decided before the show that since we're all a bunch of ignorant Americans with ignorant American listeners, that I wasn't going to punish anyone for saying Greenland instead of Denmark. But I want to try to know that until you just said it here, I think maybe I knew it at one time. Maybe I don't know, but I didn't know that. I want to try to appease those listeners. I want to try to appease those listeners who he's gonna be a formidable foe. So we're going to make a big announcement right here, right now, on Media to Trivia, our podcast is officially declaring Greenland a country. So suck that EU geopolitical nerds, and congrats Greenlanders. You no longer have to suffer under the oppressive rule of Denmark. That's why remember when h remember when Trump He's like, he's like, I'll buy it. Yeah, he's gonna buy it. Everybody got mad at him. But I'm like, that's a great idea. We should all the time. Yeah, Europe that Yeah, It's like, it's not like unheard for the US to buy a chunk of land if they wanted to sell it. Why would we not buy it? I don't know. Ain't they're mags. They don't want to sell. Who gets mad when someone makes an offer? So I was like, hey, I'll buy your truck off You're like, no, I'm not selling my truck right now. You don't want to be like asshole. So if you listen to this podcast, you have now entered a verbal agreement that you will refer to Greenland as a country. And if you know anybody from Greenland, please let them know that they're now a country. In their independence day is officially June ninth. Excellent. With that, we're on the Meatia to trivia play the drop. Phil. Look, I need to know what I shoutand to win everything. How I'm saying, just tend to win everything. Davon Suckers Question one. The topic is conservation and as always it will be multiple choice. John sharpen in his mark this first great question expectations. Yeah, I don't like it. To keep the expectations down. This very great question comes to us via Michael Politz. If you have a question you think is right from Meat Eat to Trivia, you can send it to Trivia at the meat eater dot com. The Lower forty eight's first ring necked pheasants were released in eighteen eighty one. In what state is it Oregon, New Jersey, Iowa or California? I saw Steve starting to write before I even finished the question, so again. The Lower forty eight's first ring necked pheasants were released in eighteen eighty one in what state Your choices are Oregon, New Jersey, Iowa or California. Now, John, this will be your only multiple choice in our ten round quiz show. Just for me, nobody, man, I'm really hoping Spencer your remember what I read about this a long time ago. I need to get on my phone and make one lott No, I promise just for its work related and just get you do have a white bowl right in front of you while you're doing that. Everybody haven't answered. Oh, yeah, I got it. He's adding to his to do list. Look up where the ring. Go ahead and reveal your answers. We have Steve saying California, cal saying Oregon, John saying New Jersey, Brody saying Oregon, Hayden saying New Jersey, Krin saying Iowa, and Yani saying California. The correct answer is Oregon. God, really, how do you know that? I remember reading about it a long time ago. It was mentioned in the trivia portion of this podcast several weeks ago. Is that right material? I wasn't conversation, but it's on the recording somewhere. I pross bitch. Now Brody's winning already. Oh. Danny was the first person to release pheasants in Oregon. He got the idea while observed being a pheasant farm in Shanghai. Denny had sixty of them shipped across the ocean in eighteen eighty one, followed by two more shipments in eighteen eighty two. In eighteen eighty four, he said the pheasants did incredibly well traveling by boat from China to Oregon, but nearly all of them died. When they boarded a train in America. So if you're shipping pheasants boat okay, train not okay? Do you know that idea that humans the think you had a humunculus, like you had a little man that lived in you. I feel like my humunculus knew that, because it's part of me. Knew that. Dude, that's a T shirt, Steve, humunculus, he knew, he knew hundred like daw a little any me you in the side of your's got a better memory and he's a lot less whiney Steve. Shoot that pheasant, Steve, I want to tap into the mindset of I'm going to mail order pheasants from China to Oregon in eighteen sixty whatever. Yeah, he's got nothing else on his mind. He's like, uh, Tuesday delivery. Question to the topic is hunting. What disease has the nickname rabbit fever? Again? What disease has the nickname rabbit fever? How you feeling about this one? John Terrible? Oh my god, Spencer leave it on for a long time, Steve, Come on, I know a lot about it. It's um come on your marculus help him out. No, I know what it is. It's I think you're homunculus got infected with at once. So we have bro Do who thinks he has he has it. Cal, are you feeling good? Already wrote something I just can't think of the word is all, which which happens as the only problem. That's the equivalent of my girlfriend in Canada. You know that nobody's ever seen is. I just can't think of that word matter at summer camp yep, Well, long answers time here. You think you're gonna come up with it. I know what it is. I can tell you that. I can tell you the different forms it takes. Definitely talked about this on I can tell you about a guy who hit one with his lawnmower and contracted it in an aerosolised form, or like podcast yeah, or like the little kid who Yeah, I'm gonna protest this one. It's been a long time that word. Alright, let's go. Already wants another note your answer. We have Steve without an Cal saying trick, and Nella John saying parvo, Brodi's saying tulimia, Hayden saying scurvy, Krin saying that's what that's Lemons and honest saying tulimia. The correct answer is to Luimia that like kind of yeah, the the pneumonic device should be like cannot get anything else. I knew it was wrong. I couldn't form any other words in my mind. This disease is also known as deer fly fever. They're about two hundred and thirty human cases reported each year in America and it's been found in every state except Hawaii. It telling about the guy that hit one with his lawnmower and got aerosol eyes to Luimi that killed him, that's wild He's one of the two thirty. That's a unique way to catch it out. There's been talk of they could that they could potentially turn it into a chemical weapon because it can be alizia ye, the one we're out. A question three in the topic is wildlife. In the year three seventy three BC, Greek historian Facidities reported that prior to an earthquake, there were five types of animals that fled the city name one of them. Again. The year was three seventy three BC, and a Greek historian reported that prior to a major earthquake, there were five types of animals that fled the city. You need to name one of them. What was the category of this one? Wildlife? The category is John? Oh? How John doing terrible? Three? What a two? Whatever we're at? Does everybody have an answer? I got a shot in the dark. Go ahead and reveal your answers. We have Steve saying rats, Cal saying rock dogs, John saying dogs, Brody saying birds, Hayden saying rats, Crin saying rodents, and Janis saying snakes. The correct answers are rodents, dogs, snakes, weasels, and centipedes? Are you giving it for rats? If you said rats, will give it to you. So the room did fairly well. No birds were fleeing the city, though now history is full of anecdotal evidence of animals predicting natural disasters. One study examined the popular theory that there's a correlation between lost pet ads in the San Jose Mercury News and the dates of earthquakes in San Francisco, but after a thorough statistical analysis published in nineteen eighty eight, scientists determined there's actually no correlation between the two. Now, John and your writings of earthquakes, did you come across any unique animal stories? Definitely, There were a lot of reports of dogs going nuts before the Lastica earthquake, for sure. Yeah, I remember a lot of the people because a lot of people's accounts started with, well, I was trying to figure out what's going on with my dog and then boom. So I never seen it happen, but he was feeling something. They weren't. They just start barking or you know, pacing or stuff like that. Yeah. Run to question for the topic is cooking. This next great question comes to us via Jeff Kurtz. As you have a question you think is right for meat eat to Trivia, you can send it to Trivia at the meat eater dot com. Banned for import by the USDA in nineteen seventy one. This Scottish dish is traditionally made by mixing organ meat with oatmeal and then boiling it in an animal stomach. What is it? Banned for import by the USDA in nineteen seventy one. This Scottish dish is traditionally made by mixing organ meat with oatmeal and then boiling it in an animal stomach. Brody wrote, quite cockily, how about you? You got it very cochily? Okay, perhaps more cockily than Brody could just be projecting. Does everybody have an answer? Be honest, doesn't know. I have three letters of an answer, and I'm hoping you're gonna give it to me with three letters. That's it. I'm very interested to these letters are go ahead and reveal your answers. We have Steve saying Vegas, hagas, Hagas, hagas, Vegas, Vegas, and Yannas saying hag We'll give it to Janni what happened because he took that one away from how would you know? Hag? I just couldn't. I just couldn't remember the whole you know, hags and now one less letter, and I would not have given it to you. Thank you if I really appreciate it. Vegas is still more no more importing those Scottish hags. Vegas is still banned a day because traditional recipes consist of about fifteen percent sheep lung, which the USDA says and has an increased risk of carrying food born illnesses. But if you're really interested in trying Scotland's national dish, there are plenty of lung three manufacturers who make a legal version of hagas. I went to a you know those Scottish poet Bobby Burns. No Scottish poet Bobby Burns. I went to h in a predominantly Scottish region. I went to the annual Bobby Burns Festival, which was where out in near Miles City, and they played a lot of bagpipe read Bobby Burns poetry. And then, I mean a lot of people were there, over one hundred people, and we ate haggas. I like it. You think it was headlong in. It was made right there. But the bummer is instead of cooking it in the Kyle's stomach, they were just cooking it in like turkey bags, which I thought was bullshit. Steve likes his haggas with stomach. We're onto question five. The topic is conservation. Name one of the five biggest private landowners in America. Again, name one of the five biggest private landowners in America. Cal Isn't there some great quote about like a lot of conservation happens on private land, or like you need private land for conservation. I feel like it's a thing that's said when people tend to overlook what happens on the other side of the fact. We all conversation all conservation east of the Mississippi is occurring there exactly. There's math I guess yeah, million acres of public land. There's roughly nine hundred and twenty five million acres out of land dedicated specifically for agriculture. And then within the private holdings. There's more private land in the lower forty eight specifically set aside for wildlife or recreation than all of our national parks combined in the lower forty eight. That's why we got you here. Go ahead and reveal your answers. We have Steve saying Turner, cal saying Turner Turner Roadi's saying the Cotch Brothers, Cooke Brothers where I grew up us too. If it's spelled like that, it's Cotch. Hayden saying Ted Turner. Jannis saying Ted Turner ted again, which was called me, Ted, I don't think you should. You know what yannest. I'm not going to because we gave you yeah, because I remember, I just couldn't remember it. Karan, what's your answer? And Karin says Ted Turner. The correct answers are John Malone, the Emerson family, Ted Turner, the Reed family, and Stan Cronkey I'm like neck and neck with Brody. I thought for sure they'd be on them. Do you have the breakdown which who's is Malone? Is that he passed up? John Malone is number one. He is the largest private landowner in the country. He owns two point two million acres spread across Florida, New Mexico, Maryland, Maine, New Hampshire, Colorado, Nyoming hunting permission, I'm gonna write you can hunt his place in Maine. Help mean just me? Besides all that ground, he also owns steak in Formula one Serious XM radio in the Atlanta Braves. Phil hit us with a scoreboard update. Uh yeah, I'd love to everyone is in first place. Wow, everyone has three points? Okay, are you serious? I'm serious? Like that we are gotten the first two? Right? Well, then you'd be in first you know what? I can imagine that question six. The topic is bow fishing. This next great question comes to us via Nolan Laird. If you have a question you think is right for Meatia to trivia, you can send it to Trivia at the meat eater dot com. Shouls he no for John Welm right now, I'm not even sure you know what bow fishing is what is What phenomenon causes fish to appear closer to the surface because of how light changes direction when it meets water. What phenomenon causes fish to appear closer to the surface because of how light changes direction when it meets water. We have a fairly confident room. Brody and Steve have been giving each other the stink Guy the whole time. Right over me, It's coming right across me like lasers up. Did you breathe a little sigh of relief when you heard the actual yes? But no, not really feel like that. You'd have to know anything about bow fishing to get this right. Here's the deal. If we want this uh trivia podcast to last more than two months, we gotta have questions like this. All right, you're saying I'm not a good question. No know, I'm saying we need to like go to the fringes of the meat eater universe to have a question like this. The answer to every question can't be whitetailed deer. That's what I do. Everybody have an answer, Go ahead and reveal your answers. We have Steve saying refraction, cal saying refraction, refraction, refraction, everybody got it right. Is refraction. Light. Refraction is the primary reason so many bow fishers miss their target high. A good rule of thumb is to aim three inches below the fish for every foot of depth. So if you're shooting at a bottom dwelling carp in three feet of water, you should be aiming about nine inches below the fish's belly. Yeah, I knew that for about one and a half cart thicknesses there, you, guys. Depends on how big carps. But question seven, the topic is hunting. Now, this is an audio question. Fill. The engineer is going to play thirty seconds of an animal's call, and you need to tell me what that animal is. Mccac alright, alright, God, I think everybody has an answer. John, you have an answer, Yeah, go ahead and reveal your answers. Sand hill crane, sam hill crane. John says turkey, Brody says sand hill crane, sand hill crane. Crane says some tropical birder monkey, and Janie says sand hill crane. The correct answer is sand hill crane, sand hill crane. Vocalizations have been described by ornithologists as moans, hisses, hanks, trills, purrs, and snores. But what you heard there is called a bugle. That's upsetting because I've been around sand hill cranes and it's just my homelculist was not probably within a couple hundred yards in one right now, Uh, that would have been a good tribute. Question that they call it a bugle. It's it's it's a little bit too objective though, or subjective, because some folks may call it a hawk, but bugle is what you'll commonly see. Question eight. We'll get a scoreboard update from Phil after this. I think it's still a pretty tight race. The topic is wildlife. This animal is the world's sixth heaviest land mammal and eleventh deadliest animal for humans. What is it in the world? In the world, what I mean by eleventh deadliest for humans is it kills the eleventh most humans per year. So again, it is the sixth heaviest land mammal and eleventh deadliest animal for humans. Steve had an answer immediately. The rest of the room is still thinking pretty hard. Six. This gives me time to this is in the world the sixth heaviest lands include aquatic animals and eleventh deadliest animal for humans. I'll read the quie again, free body. This animal is the world seclude white tails. This animal is the world's sixth heaviest land mammal and eleventh deadliest animals. Our humans, Yeah, big giant buck, what is it you tell me when you're ready? The huff buck? Does everybody have an answer? Yeah, it's really bugging me. No, I don't. I want a little more time. No complaining about the time when. Brody also does not like it when people erace. He thinks you need to stick with that first answer. You right down. It's a side of weakness. Man, It's like he's a flip flopper. He's a flip flopper. Hey, everyone else has done it. Does everybody have an answer? Go ahead and reveal your answers. We have Steve saying the hippo, Cal saying the cape buffalo, John saying the moose, Brody saying the moose, Hayden saying the moose, Krim saying the hippo, and Yannis saying the hippo. We have a diverse set of answers here. The correct answer is hippo. That's six the first five. It's like a variety of elephants. Elephant. Oh, I didn't know we're going species like rough groupings. Yeah, not even like even like moose is pretty far down on list. I think they're like, I think they're like twenty ninth hip. I got a question for Spen. What's the number one most deadliest animal in the world, mosquito. That's correct by like a lot. Now, hippo's weigh nearly seven thousand pounds, which makes them lighter than elephants but heavier than giraffes, and they kill about five hundred humans per year, which puts them behind assassin bugs but ahead of sharks. Yeah, but your question was in regards to mammals. Oh yeah, yeah, No, no, what I'm saying like that that doesn't factor into hit us. With a scoreboard update by the Weights and the Animals above this by e O Day by EOD we have two questions left, all right. In third place we have John Wallen with four points, which is there's honestly a strong third because he's still he's still in the game. It doesn't feel it doesn't feel that way. No, you can appreciate that. But tied for second we have Brody cal Corin and Hayden, and then tied for first we have Jannis the Latvian Eagle Patellis and Stephen the This is where friendships get ruined. Man, so frustrating because I feel like hippo is the default answer for that. It's like everybody knows hippo's a bunch of people. But then when you got to put him in order await, I was like, well, maybe it's a smarter question than I'm giving a credit for. And that's where I kill myself every week. I'm feeling good today he's a lot smarter. Yeah, I think it's today. In games, I got word all in three. Oh. You know when I played my wife last night that it's a great game is Uh, it's it's in that same family as wordle and I didn't know about it, but it's like it looks like a little honeycomb and there's a letter in it that has to be used in every word oh the spelling bee. Yeah, that's why it's a honeycomb. Yeah shit, I mean we poured the coals to it. It only came up with half the possibles. I had a night where I played that. Someone introduced me to it, and I got the highest mark and I got to delete it from I was like, I can't do this anymore. This is I'm gonna get I saw where it was going. I just went out in a high note. She plays. She likes, My wife likes played it to get to genius. Oh yeah, but we we fell short. Yeah, I'm sure we just sat there for like eight more hours. We would have found another word, but it was getting slow returns. Yeah. No, this was like, you know, a bag of potato chips or something. For me. I was like, I gotta just put that over there. I never touched out again. We're on the question nine. The topic is fishing. This legendary phishing lure, invented in nineteen ten, has a unique name that was intentionally misspelled so that it wouldn't offend religious anglers. What is it? This legendary phishing lure, invented in nineteen ten has a unique name that was intentionally misspelled so that it wouldn't offend religious anglers. Now, Steve knew it right away, but I haven't seen anybody else right down in answer, legendary phishing lure. Legendary fishing lure that was invented in nineteen ten has a unique name that was intentionally misspelled so that it wouldn't offend religious anglers. And if you spell it wrong, I would still give it to you. Brodie, how's it going over there? It was called the Baezus is everybody but Brody? Have an answer? Brody, I don't have an answer. You got a few more seconds here, go ahead and reveal your answers. We have Steve saying Daredevil, Cal saying the water walker. I like that. I don't know if that's a lure, but it should be. John saying the krugen fix crucifix, crucifix c r O o O c k s should also be a Brody without an answer, Hayden saying the water walker, Krin saying the Virgin Mary spelled like Merry Christmas. And Janna is saying the daredevil. Nor shouldn't get it because he spelled the word. He didn't misspell it. I said to spell it accurately. He's answer is daredevil, which is spelled d A R D e v L. How did you spell it? I just thought it was like devil, like dev without an apostrophe. L Lou Eppinger invented the Daredevil in nineteen ten. It was originally named the Osprey Lure, but Eppinger chose to change the name after World War One to honor the US Marines, who the Germans referred to as Daredevil's because of their fierce fighting style. Ron to the last question, hit us with a scoreboard update. Phil, it's just down to Steve and Yanni and seven points apiece. It's been amazing. It watched Brody's games fall apart today. Everyone has a bad day. Started out like two wamn wam. Yeah, it was like, it feels horrible. He Brody snatched snatched failure from the jaws of victory that I fell apart. It's good Daredevil resurrected, in my opinion from that crappy hip. How you like that? One? Okay? Question? The topic is public lands. This next right question comes to us via Patrick McGee. If you have a question you think is right for Meat Eater Trivia, send it to trivia at the meat eater dot com. There are five states with multiple national grasslands. Name two of them. Two of the states should be specific. There are five states with multiple national grasslands. Name two of those states. Pretty quick answers for the two fellas in the lead, but they both look stumped. I would gather that they have one, but are trying to come up with a second. How you feel? Brodie good, because I've been to him, I know him. Hundred pronghorn on one. Ah, what that's a pretty good tip. These fellas can probably recall every prong horn you've killed. Nah, killed the bunch, right answer, Janna, Steve, how we do it? All sorts of grasslands and all sorts of states? I want to change much, Yeah, influencing my decision here. You should almost call a mistrial. Yeah, I'm gonna change the one I got rid of rather than erasing it, I scratched it out. If I want up being wrong, I want to be like but but but if you want to if you want to fight it, yeah, like you know it'd be like but you know we all know that. Does everybody have an answer? Go ahead and reveal your answers. We have Steve saying south Dakota and Colorado, Caw saying Wyoming in South Dakota, John saying Nebraska and Kansas, Brodie saying Colorado and Wyoming, Hayden saying South Dakota and Nebraska, Karin saying Nebraska and Iowa, and Yani saying Nebraska and Wyoming. The correct answers are Colorado, North Dakota, South Dakota, Oklahoma, and Texas. Who won, Phil I couldn't. Wyoming is not one with multi grass slams. Refuge reserved something in a Wyoming antelope, but multiple grasslands. There are only twenty. They're only twenty in the country, and we're looking for states to have two of them. Oh, you know when when I got my thing from Brody's tip, I was wrong, but it steered me in the right direction. He crossed out Arizona because I was like, I don't know, we're all brod He's killed an Arizon I'd heard about that. John's you have fun playing trivia? At first I had fun if Now I feel like it's like the Queen Bee thing, like I gotta come back. I want to study up. I feel like this is not this is not how I wanted to see him to you guys better. We have one of your neighbors, my buddy Tommy Edson, Okay, coming because he's been walking back. Now. He sends me a scorecard and he texts me yesterday being like, you have to stop saying that I said I win, because I never said I win every game, Like, don't do this now, John. What happens next is Steve gets to choose where our five hundred dollars donation goes. So who are you gonna give it to? Steve? I'm gonna donate. I can't remember what I did last time. I think you every time you choose, I'm doing our own land Access Initiative. There you go. I like that, good option, you know. I wait enough, I mean the next time, the next time, I'll I'll do tRCD. I'm looking forward to those ones. You're not gonna be in here coming up. That's it for me either, Trivia. Thank you for playing. John. It's the only game show where conservation always wins and Greenland is a country